Trying to catch an ITC breakoutI tried multiple times to catch a breakout on ITC and it has had it's ups and downs.
1st position I built was on 1st June. I tried to be a little greedy with the possibility of a reward, chose Options. Bought 220 CE and ITC being ITC promptly retraced back below resistance, and pretty much wiped out the money in the position.
The 2nd time I tried a month later when the pullback looked promising, and this time I went with a Future contract instead. It again fizzled out and I had to exit early as the Future position was naked and had started to bleed losses.
The 3rd time I built the position the right way. I hedged my futures with just OTM puts, thereby capping the loss possibility. With the hedge margin benefit, I could open double the position and that offset the "loss" due to hedge. Once that was done, I was free to maintain and hold the position for as long as needed till a breakout did occur.
Why was I confident about a breakout? Well ITC has been forming a multi year symmetrical wedge - with Lower Highs, and Higher Lows. Though this has an equal chance to break both sides, at a price point near 200-215 ITC is very fairly priced even for a consolidating market - and given the bullish market sentiment, quite underpriced comparatively. For now I am continuing to trail SL on ITC and for the medium term expect it to make an up move to catch up with the rest of the market.
Learnings :
1. Stay away from naked options no matter how attractive they look . Though the rewards on Options looks awesome on paper, it is very very difficult to time a larger move correctly. More often than not, with a reversal you will quickly erode capital. Better avoid them to gain longer term rewards.
2. Always hedge your futures. You can in fact make more returns on a hedged position with twice the buildup, than you could with a naked single position - and you will still spend only half the margin requirement.
3. Be patient with your trades. Many a time we're looking for quick returns, especially if we're new in the market. The trick is to slow things down and look at the bigger picture. Make sure you limit your losses, and ride your winners for long - till they turn around decisively.
Options
Why Is It Necessary to Bank Gains in Options on a regular basis?In this post, I thought of sharing with you why it is necessary to exit Long Options in certain situations and bank gains. This is based on the trades that i had actually taken and is not a backtest story that I am sharing.
HDFC BANK 1580 CE
A few days ago , I bought HDFC BANK 1580 CE when the spot was at 1567. The intent was to ride it as long as I can and preferably till it reaches 1600 psycho resistance.
The exit basis was based on the premise that I had picked up the trade using a good basis and the price at that time was in the zone.
However, man wishes and the market disposes of the plan out the window!
I soon realized that the underlying was not having enough strength and it was highly unlikely to cross even 1580, leave aside reaching closer to 1600. HDFC BANK has the tendency to quickly slip a few points and in such a case, my Option would come near cost and I would end up letting the gains evaporate.
In view of this, I exited the long in good gains in terms of ROI % which is how I measure my trades as I do not trade with a big size as I have learned those lessons the hard way in the past. I was content with the trade and was expecting that the scrip may retest the area from where it had bounced.
And something similar happened and without blinking, I went long on the same Option and interestingly, this time I could get it at a better price by 10 paise. On an HDFC BANK Option, even this small difference could well take care of all the charges so I was happy. And I waited for the price to test the earlier level from where it got rejected and as the scrip approached the level, I simply exited without thinking about a What if it goes beyond the resistance line?
My exit was justified and then the scrip rolled down.
I was happy that just by observing the price action and not really referring to any indicators, I was able to make 2 good trades. Or should I say - the market was kind enough to grant me these 2 good trades?
[n Conclusion:
The above highlights the fact that while trading in Options, observing the price of the underlying when in momentum is essential and as soon as the trade is on, the exit plan should be in place. This can be done either by placing an SL order or a target order. I keep these levels in mind and exit as and when either of these are approached.
When in a bull market, when a price retraces back to a support area, a good trading opportunity appears as in the case explained above.
Taking a re-entry at the same or around the same price level is easier when there is already a profit cushion from the earlier trades so the not only the mental state is stable and positive, but the confidence while pressing key is also at the required level.
Please let me know if this helps and if you would like me to share some of my trades with you and I will do so whenever possible. As you can see from the chart, the trades mentioned above were taken a few days ago before HDFC BANK tested lower levels.
Happy Money Making!
Umesh
18-9-21
Note - I am not a SEBI Regd analyst and the views expressed here are purely for educational and informational purposes only. Please perform Due Diligence at your end before taking any trades as only you know how to manage your money.
How to place a logical stop-loss in Options?In general, a logical stop loss varies from one situation to another.
Some of the logical stop losses can be:
1. Swing high/low
2. Low of the Hammer/Inverted hammer
3. High of the Shooting star/Hanging man
4. Low of the demand zone
5. High of the supply zone
If you are trading in options, broadly there are 2 ways to set a stop loss. There are:
1. Place the SL using the spot chart
2. Place the SL using the Options chart
Explanation:
1. If you place a stop loss using the spot chart, then you don't have to see the Options chart. But you won't be able to calculate exact loss beforehand because the movement of spot vs options is not linear and depends on Option Greeks. This is a simpler method since you just have to see a single chart. Just enter and exit the trade using the spot chart only.
2. If you place the stop loss using the Options chart, you will be able to calculate the exact loss beforehand. For checking the options chart, you will have to use your broker's terminal or use some paid third-party site. Tradingview doesn't provide option charts. This method is a bit difficult as compared to the first method. The steps that you need to follow are:
a> Check the spot chart.
b> Execute your buy/sell order.
c> Notice the logical stop loss in the spot chart
d> Check the same SL in the options chart
4. Now open the options chart of the option that you bought/sold.
5. See the relative position of the stop loss in the options chart. (Whatever SL that you selected in the spot chart in step 3, select that same SL but now in options chart.)
In the above case, suppose you Shorted Nifty. So, you can either buy a PUT option or sell a CALL option. The stop loss in both cases is as follows:
If you buy a PUT option:
If you sell a CALL option:
6. Now that you have chosen your stop loss, just place your stop-loss order. That's it, you are done.
Read the post a few times and you will be able to understand the process. Don't complicate things. I hope you find this post useful. Also, if anyone is interested in getting a PDF version of this thread, then you can message me, I'll provide it.
Disclaimer: This is NOT investment advice. This post is meant for learning purposes only. Invest your capital at your own risk.
Happy learning. Cheers!
Nifty: Gravestone doji observed after Bad Bank good NEWSNifty
- Yesterday there was Press Conference where our Finance Minister came up with the idea of forming of a Bad Bank and buying Rs 2 lakh Cr NPA of PSU banks for Rs 30,000 Cr .
- this would clear up all the NPA of PSU Banks and going forward would help in showcasing better ROI .
This possible expectation of good news is possibly one of the reasons why we have seen our markets doing well in recent days.
- However today on hourly charts we observe gravestone doji pattern
- this is a bearish candlestick pattern
Is the good NEWS being factored in?
I have highlighted this view in the previous update in the comment section
Time for you to decide.
Do note: last time, in our Nifty update our SL got triggered at 17450
So due your own research and due diligence.
Disclaimer
- The view expressed here is my personal view
- Past performance is not a guarantee for future predictions
- Use this for educational purpose
- Any decision you take, you need to take responsibility for the same
- It's your hard earned money. Treat it wisely
- Trade / Invest keeping in mind your trading style, goals and objectives, time horizon & risk tolerance
- if trading in F&O, understand that F&O trading involves risk
- Do take proper risk management measures
- Do your own analysis and consult your financial adviser if need be
SBIN: Potential Channel tradeSBIN
- there was a big positive announcement for PSU Banks yesterday evening by Finance Minister
- On charts, we see SBIN trading near channel top levels
given the set up, one may consider a Bear Call Spread strategy
Sell 480 Call option currently around 8.6
Buy 510 Call option currently around 3.5
Net receivables in strategy Rs 7650/- per lot (yield potential of 11.5% on Margin requirement till 30 Sept expiry)
More importantly the strategy has inbuilt loss protection for a rise in stock price up to 485.10 on 30 Sept
Take care & safe trading...!!!
Hindalco: Chart set up and trading strategyHindalco
CMP 486
Potential Line of resistance around expiry comes at 513 levels
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Given the set up, one may consider to Bear Call spread strategy
Sell 510 Call option around 5 &
Buy 540 Call Option currently around 1.7
Lot size 2150
Net receivables 3.3 * 2150 = Rs 7095
Yield potential of approximately 8% on margin requirement
Importantly strategy has in built loss protection for a rise in stock price up to 513.30 till expiry
Take care & safe trading...!!!
Disclaimer
- The view expressed here is my personal view
- Past performance is not a guarantee for future predictions
- Use this for educational purpose
- Any decision you take, you need to take responsibility for the same
- It's your hard earned money. Treat it wisely
- Trade / Invest keeping in mind your trading style, goals and objectives, time horizon & risk tolerance
- if trading in F&O, understand that F&O trading involves risk
- Do take proper risk management measures
- Do your own analysis and consult your financial adviser if need be
$Bitcoin : Options Short StrangleVer.2 - 85%APY at 10 daysAfter the price spike last week volatility fluctuations has stabilized at around 70%. The idea is all about using a period relatively a stabilized price range and receiving income through the sale of options in a short-time period.
Flash Idea:
For income receiving, we sell two types of options within the framework of the trading channel with an expected price till September 24. By selling CALL option at the price of 49 000 we receive a premium of 15 USD for the contract of 0.01BTC. In addition, we sell PUT option at the price of 45 000 with an approximate premium of 12 USD.
Thus, we form an expected channel of price movement in the range between 45 000 - 49 000 for the upcoming ten days.
The expected profitability will be around 85% annual on the capital used, including a brokerage fee.
Risks:
If at the moment of expiration the price will exit the trading channel, losses will correspond to the difference between the current price and the nearest channel border.
BANKNIFTY 13 SEP EDUCATIONAL CALL + Trade set up for long termHello friends
We will see one sided movement after 2-3 days in BankNifty
Buy above 36680
Sl 36600
Targets
36750
36900
Sell below 36570
T1 36500
T2 36380
T3 36270
Always Remember Trading is 80% waiting and 20% action
I am bullish on bank nifty on long term but bearish for short term
Happy Trading
Nifty: Is Nifty shifting gearsNifty
CMP 17308
- Nifty is still going up
- however we see Nifty is struggling to keep up with the pace
- From 30 March 2020, we observe Nifty trading in blue channel
- however since 30 March 2021 exactly after 1 year, we see Nifty struggling to stay in blue channel and subsequently it came to the midpoint of yellow channel
- currently it is at the crossroads and it looks likely it might shift to the yellow channel
- the set up has potential target of 16800 over a few weeks
Given the set up one may consider to sell 30 Sept expiry 17500 Call option around 100
The strategy has a yield potential of 6.5% approximately and provides in built loss protection for a rise up to 17600 till expiry
Take care & safe trading...!!!
Disclaimer
- The view expressed here is my personal view
- Past performance is not a guarantee for future predictions
- Use this for educational purpose
- Any decision you take, you need to take responsibility for the same
- It's your hard earned money. Treat it wisely
- Trade / Invest keeping in mind your trading style, goals and objectives, time horizon & risk tolerance
- if trading in F&O, understand that F&O trading involves risk
- Do take proper risk management measures
- Do your own analysis and consult your financial adviser if need be
BANKNIFTY 9 SEP EDUCATIONAL CALLTHE ABOVE CHART HAS ALL THE TARGETS AND STOPLOSS
BUY ABOVE 36900
T1 37100
T2 37300
SL 36850
JUST KEEP THESE LITTLE THINGS IN MIND BEFORE TRADING
Tomorrow is weekly expiry so there will be a A lot of volume so trade with strict stoploss
Wait for 15min before entering in the trade
REMEMBER FAILURE IS A PART OF YOUR JOURNEY TOWARDS SUCCESS
HAPPY TRADING
BN Iron CondorFollowing trade is for educational purposes only. An Iron Condor is an option strategy, where the expected outcome for next week is range-bound.
A CE option mentioned below is a European Call Option, while a PE option is a European Put.
A hedger always buys these options and a speculator mostly sells one.
But when the speculator only sells these options, the risk involved is unlimited and the margin requirement is also high. This is called naked option selling. When both CE and PE are sold, it is called a short straddle.
In combination with this, if we buy much farther CE and PE, the short straddle becomes an Iron condor. Here, the idea is to capture the option premium in a range-bound market with reduced risk and margin compared to short straddle.
The spread between buy and sell leg is based on optimum use of margin. Since the option premium is credited to us in advance, it is also a credit spread.
Please leave a comment if you need further clarification on the following trade
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Buy 35600PE, Sell 36200PE
Buy 38600CE, Sell 38000CE
The history of trades of this trade model is in the following link:
docs.google.com
My concept of trading is not to be an overnight millionaire, but a disciplined method to grow the wealth that you own.
Please leave a like if you like the trade ideas :)
Tata Steel: Channel trade potential for September seriesTata Steel
- We observe Tata Steel trading in blue channel from 03 May to mid July
- currently it is trading in mirror image red channel
- RSI is between 40-60
Tata Steel could likely be revolving in the red channel for September month
For Cash buying any dips towards 1245-1260 may be considered as good entry level
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Given the set up, F&O strategy suggested for Tata Steel: Short Strangle
It involves selling both Call and Put option simultaneously
Sell 30 September expiry 1500 Call option
Sell 30 September expiry 1260 Put option
Combined Premium receivable approximately 42
Max profit potential in strategy Rs 35700/- per lot (11% yield potential)
Loss in strategy, if Tata Steel closes above 1542 or below 1218 on 30 September
Take care & safe trading...!!!
Disclaimer
- The view expressed here is my personal view
- Past performance is not a guarantee for future predictions
- Use this for educational purpose
- Any decision you take, you need to take responsibility for the same
- It's your hard earned money. Treat it wisely
- Trade / Invest keeping in mind your trading style, goals and objectives, time horizon & risk tolerance
- if trading in F&O, understand that F&O trading involves risk
- Do take proper risk management measures
- Do your own analysis and consult your financial adviser if need be
BN Vertical Put Credit spreadFollowing trade is for educational purposes only. An Iron Condor is an option strategy, where the expected outcome for next week is range-bound.
A CE option mentioned below is a European Call Option, while a PE option is a European Put.
A hedger always buys these options and a speculator mostly sells one.
But when the speculator only sells these options, the risk involved is unlimited and the margin requirement is also high. This is called naked option selling. When both CE and PE are sold, it is called a short strangle.
In combination with this, if we buy much farther CE and PE, the short strangle becomes an Iron condor. Here, the idea is to capture the option premium in a range-bound market with reduced risk and margin compared to short straddle.
The spread between buy and call leg is based on optimum use of margin. Since the option premium is credited to us in advance, it is also a credit spread.
Since this week the view is bullish , we are taking only the PE leg of Iron Condor. As the week progresses, additional trade may be added.
Please leave a comment if you need further clarification on the following trade
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Buy 34700PE, Sell 35300PE
The history of trades of this trade model is in the following link:
docs.google.com
My concept of trading is not to be an overnight millionaire, but a disciplined method to grow the wealth that you own.
Please leave a like if you like the trade ideas :)
And thank you for the DMs. I am fine, was just preoccupied with some personal errands :)
The Story of BankNifty and 35800. Over the past few months, we've seen a good rallies on Nifty and Bank nifty index's. But 35800 has been a major resistance. Time and again I have shorted, Bought put options again and again and again. Market is a beautiful place where you see just reds and greens but the amount of data you derive from is awesome.
Now, I'm not saying you should go short or long. But the probabilities game is so good at this level. Ever Bank-nifty gapped down a few weeks back it has been incredibly difficult for it to break that particular level. It's just a matter of time before it breaks it and go for a big rally towards 37000. Nifty has been testing record highs. But the underlying issue is the underperformance of these big banking shares.
Moving Averages 9,20,50,200 have all provided a static support/resistance to guide us choose our trades. I personally think it's better to do multi-time frame analysis to choose these important levels.
End of the day, we just need one proper trade. For me 35800 has been an important pivot. So, I will look to short the market everytime.
# HDFCBANK FOR AUG-2021🔥🔥# WE WILL MAKE ONLY PROFIT💲💲💲
# If you ask me can i buy HDFCBANK CALL(CE) i can't agree with you for some time.
# if you want to play safe than some days only buy put(PE)
# 4 hour MACD already Enter in Downtrend
# If you want to buy HDFCBANK buy put with next week Expire.
# This is my opinion.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM OR NEED ANY HELP THAN COMMENT OR MESSAGE ME.
OptionsTrade: BTST: Buy Nifty 18th Aug 16500CE@85-88. (CMP 101)BTST: Buy Nifty 18th Aug 16500CE@85-88. (CMP 101) Lets wait for market to react and come down a little.
Target 125-160. Exit Tomorrow before market close under any condition.
Disclaimer :
Trading is never ever recommended as it is injurious to mankind. This is purely my study based on technical charts and for educational purpose only. Please do your analysis before taking any trades given by me. I MUST not be held responsible for any profit or loss out of any trades you take on our advice. All Disclaimers Apply.
#banknifty view for 17th Aug'21#banknifty view for 17th Aug'21
Do you see #banknifty weak?
No, trading above SDMA (5/10/20/50/100) and all trend & momentum oscillators are in buy mode.
What do I do, go long or go short? I don't see any weakness in the market until 35,531 is breached. Till that time, its buy-in dips the market for higher targets.
Do I get a shorting opportunity at higher levels? Yes, might be close to 36,760 to 36,983 areas, with an SL for 200 points.
Where do you see major support for BankNifty ? 35,855 - 35,910 / 35,703 / 35,531
Where do you see major resistance for BankNifty ? 36,446 / 36,584 / 36,760 / 36,851 /36,983
DZ:- 36,050
On 4 hour time frame:- 50% & 61% projection is placed at 36,905 & 37,563 which may or may not be achieved.
E.g. One of the important DP is the weekly low, if the weekly low is broken, then only you will be short else you won't.
John Maynard Keynes said, “the markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” So be cautious and flexible as market conditions evolve.
Always trade what you see, never trade what you feel. Make this a habit, you won't be requiring any seminar, webinar, or mentor, you will be self-sufficient.
Regards,
SG
#banknifty view for 16th Aug'21 #banknifty view for 16th Aug'21
Excellent Weekly Closing above 36,000 at 36,169.35, bulls are in full control.
Do you see #banknifty weak?
No, trading above SDMA (5/10/20/50/100) and all trend & momentum oscillators are in buy mode.
What do I do, go long or go short? I don't see any weakness in the market until 35,531 is breached. Till that time, its buy-in dips the market for higher targets.
Do I get a shorting opportunity at higher levels? Yes, might be close to 36,760 to 36,983 areas, with an SL for 200 points.
Where do you see major support for BankNifty ? 35,937 / 35,703 / 35,531
Where do you see major resistance for BankNifty ? 36,446 / 36,584 / 36,760 / 36,851 /36,983
DZ:- 36,089
On 4 hour time frame:- 50% & 61% projection is placed at 36,905 & 37,563 which may or may not be achieved.
E.g. One of the important DP is the weekly low, if the weekly low is broken, then only you will be short else you won't.
John Maynard Keynes said, “the markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” So be cautious and flexible as market conditions evolve.
Always trade what you see, never trade what you feel. Make this a habit, you won't be requiring any seminar, webinar, or mentor, you will be self-sufficient.
Regards,
SG
#banknifty view for 12th Aug'21 #expiry#banknifty view for 12th Aug'21 #expiry
Do you see #banknifty weak?
No, BN at 35,806 is trading above the majority of SDMA (10/20/50/100) and 5 SDMA is 35,903, and the majority of momentum & trend oscillators are in buy mode.
What do I do, go long or go short? I don't see any weakness in the market until 34,861 is breached. Till that time, its buy-in dips the market for higher targets.
Do I get a shorting opportunity at higher levels? Yes, might be close to 36,600 to 37,900 areas
Where do you see major support for BankNifty ? 35,211 / 35,404 / 35,596
Where do you see major resistance for BankNifty ? 36,372 / 36,631 / 36,891
DZ:- 35,900
On 4 hour time frame:- 50% & 61% projection is placed at 36,905 & 37,563 which may or may not be achieved.
E.g. One of the important DP is the weekly low, if the weekly low is broken, then only you will be short else you won't.
John Maynard Keynes said, “the markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” So be cautious and flexible as market conditions evolve.
Always trade what you see, never trade what you feel. Make this a habit, you won't be requiring any seminar, webinar, or mentor, you will be self-sufficient.
Regards,
SG
Nifty: 12th August Weekly expiry view Nifty
Observations
- Nifty managed to close in the green; however Index Futures OI reduced by 3.62%
- if Nifty trades below 16325 then it would form lower top - lower bottom in ultra short term and could increase probability of short term down trend
- however given it is weekly expiry day, an extension in morning trade towards 15340 / 15359 can not be ruled out.
Chart and data analysis suggest, it could be day of testing patience and nerves where it could boil down to last 1 hour of trade
Important levels on the upside 16320 / 16359 / 16420
Important levels on the downside 16218 / 16194 / 16140
Take care & safe trading...!!!
Let me go by Disclaimer
- The view expressed here is my personal view
- Past performance is not a guarantee for future predictions
- Use this for educational purpose
- Data is dynamic and can change in no time
- Any decision you take, you need to take responsibility for the same
- It's your hard earned money. Treat it wisely
- Trade / Invest keeping in mind your trading style, goals and objectives, time horizon & risk tolerance
- if trading in F&O, understand that F&O trading involves risk
- Do take proper risk management measures
- Do your own analysis and consult your financial adviser if need be